Ep. 0: Intro to Smart Charge by RiDERgy

0:11 欢迎收听 Smart Charge by RiDERgy 播客。我是 Claudio Geyken，RiDERgy 的创始人兼首席执行官。这档节目将带你深入了解电动汽车及车队的能源管理与 smart charging 创新的方方面面。

0:41 亲爱的听众朋友们，欢迎收听 Smart Charge by RiDERgy 播客。我是 Claudio。我的背景是能源工程，专注于可再生能源，也叫可持续能源。自 2004 年太阳能和风能装机迎来加速增长以来，我就对这一领域充满热情。我深信，实现 100% 可再生能源对世界来说是更好的选择，并为此投身学习。我不仅是一个十足的技术控，对技术有着深深的热爱，同时也是

1:16 一个有点"另类"的人，我同样热爱商业和创业。我能流利地使用 9 种语言，接下来我会稍微深入聊聊创业这件事，以及它是如何发生的。但首先，作为一名专注于热力学和其他复杂技术领域的工程师，我是怎么学会 9 种语言的呢？我父亲是德国人，母亲是意大利人，我出生在巴黎附近。所以我一出生就在巴黎，父母来自不同的国家，这三种语言

1:46 从一开始就伴随着我。后来我学了英语，因为这是必须的。我通过看美剧学会了法语。我在西班牙生活了很多年，尤其是在巴塞罗那，la ciudad que me gusta muchísimo，我也学会了葡萄牙语，以及一些巴西葡萄牙语，因为我对那片文化和那个国家实在太喜爱了。然后是普通话，包括阅读、书写、口语和汉字。我深度融入了中国文化和人文之中。创业精神基本上是在 InnoEnergy 的学习过程中被深深烙印进我骨子里的，在那里我认识了许多参与他们项目的创业者，也感受到了那种真正动手去面对挑战、解决问题的思维方式。

2:30 在 InnoEnergy，我认识了许多参与他们项目的创业者，也深受那种真正动手、直面挑战、解决问题的思维方式的影响。我发起了一个连接生态圈内各方人士的倡议，随后被 InnoEnergy 的首席执行官聘用，专门负责这件事。这给了我相当多的洞察力和自由度，让我得以打造一个受 TEDx 和 LinkedIn 启发的社区，最终有几千人加入，成为

3:02 社区的一部分。我们每年举办 60 场活动，每年有 150 名志愿者参与其中。这是一段极具价值的经历，让我深刻理解到，能源行业受监管的影响，并不像开一家电商那么简单，尤其是在能源领域创业所涉及的种种商业与技术复杂性。正因如此，我决定离开并创建 RiDERgy。原因在于，进入 2020 年代，我们迫切需要比当时已有方案更为精密的解决方案，来将用电需求真正引导到

3:42 能源生产的时段，在风能和太阳能充裕、电网不拥堵的时候消耗能源，同时也能将电池电量反向输送回电网。当时市面上的大多数解决方案都不够精密，还有很多工作需要去做。我创建 RiDERgy 的初衷，也是要以 DER 为核心，你会注意到 DER 是大写的，即分布式能源资源，旨在跨越多个交易场景和不同组织与个人，将电动汽车、太阳能板、储能电池等资产进行长期连接。这就是

4:16 我们希望通过这一软件与 AI 驱动平台所实现的目标。目前我们专注于企业客户，通常是在运营中拥有大量电动汽车的公司，包括使用厢式货车和卡车的物流服务商，以及企业员工和办公室工作人员的公务车队。自几年前我与联合创始人及团队中的几位成员在柏林创业以来，我们已经取得了相当显著的成果，尤其是与拥有大型电动汽车车队的大型企业

4:50 雇主建立了合作，目前正从德国和欧洲扩展到其他国家。对于 RiDERgy 来说，这是一段非常令人振奋的时光。如果你想了解更多，欢迎访问 ridergy.com，或在 LinkedIn 上关注我们，我们非常活跃。那么，这档播客是怎么诞生的呢？我是一个狂热的播客听众。数据说明了一切：Spotify 在年度总结中告诉我，去年我收听商业、创业和科技播客的时间达到了 18,000 分钟，这让我跻身

5:24 最热忱听众的前 0.5%。所以我对目前已有的各类话题相当了解，涵盖不同语言、能源、电动汽车软件、商业和创业等领域。我觉得，我们在 RiDERgy 每天涉及、我本人也极为热情的那些话题，值得被更多人了解。像 Acquired 或 Energoner 这样的播客在展现某些观点方面做得相当不错，但如果你想深入探讨车队

5:57 电动化与出行，出行与能源如何真正开始融合，我发现有几个方面谈得还不够深入，比如电动化的挑战、与电缆容量相关的电网扩容问题，还有需要安装哪些充电桩、安装多少，以及如何在路线优化的框架下更好地管理充电过程。这些都是车队面临的大量议题，而我发现很少有播客在讨论这些内容。所以我希望

6:34 将与车队打交道的人放到聚光灯下，无论是用户、政策制定者、解决方案提供商，还是创业者等，通过采访他们，从这些对话中获取深刻的见解。因此，节目将涵盖监管、技术与商业等话题，内容多样，从清洁能源一揽子政策如何影响各成员国，到全球各地的动态，都会涉及。我们将关注中国、美国，甚至埃塞俄比亚这样的国家，后者依托 100% 水电，已禁止销售非电动汽车，这是一个非常明智的选择。所以这些话题我们也都会涉及。

7:15 API集成、协议、OCPP、ISO 15118、网络安全、GDPR、人工智能，你会看到很多流行词，但它们在实践中非常重要。我们还将深入探讨能源方面的话题，比如配备储能电池的太阳能自发自用、建筑负荷、市场、电网、配电网层级、输电网层级，真正涵盖各方面的多样性以及它们之间的相互作用。

7:53 这就是关于播客起源和播客话题的介绍。关于播客话题还有很多可以说的，但现在我想简短一些，让大家对我们将涉及的内容保持期待。我们还会采访各领域极具魅力的专家，音频质量也会非常出色，因为我们身处德国能源署在

8:24 柏林米特区提供的这个绝佳录音室，希望大多数嘉宾都能来到这里，为大家带来出色的音质。如果我们将来加入视频，质量也有望进一步提升。我们会确保打造一档与社区共同塑造的优质播客，我们不想只由自己决定播客的走向，也会广泛征集外部的想法。作为一名曾经的社区建设者，我深知社区的力量。

8:55 谁也说不准这段播客之旅会带给我们什么。在策略上，我们会借助AI工具实现多语言化，让所有人都能从这档播客中受益，而不仅仅是英语使用者。作为一名多语言使用者，我真心相信语言的力量以及让内容触达更多人的意义，我也很期待看到AI工具如何在这方面助力我们，包括以文字形式转录内容。有些案例很有启发性，比如Lex Fridman，他本人不会说西班牙语，但借助技术，采访内容可以用他的声音以西班牙语呈现，这档播客未来会有很多有趣的东西值得期待。

9:32 技术和这个领域也在不断发展演进。我们会采用访谈形式，时长大概不会太长也不会太短，让我们看看什么样的篇幅最合适。如果你也想了解我过去的工作，不妨去听听Energy Change Agents播客，

10:01 那是一档很棒的节目。我之前提到的一些创业者，比如FlexiDAO的Simone就曾在那里接受采访，聊的是24/7倡议，也就是与Microsoft和Google合作推进的绿色电力证书项目。那里还有很多值得一听的内容，而Northvolt或许也会成为本播客的下一位嘉宾，带来他们引人入胜的故事。

10:36 如果我没能以完美的质量完成这档播客，我先在这里道歉。我同时还在忙很多其他事情，一边创业，这并不是我像许多其他播客主持人那样的全职工作。希望大家能多多包涵，但无论如何，如果你觉得我们有哪些地方可以做得更好，或者有任何想法和建议，欢迎随时反馈。好了，废话不多说，你可以现在就订阅这档播客，这样就不会错过

11:07 下一期节目，它很快就会来到。同时开启自动下载，这样你在没有网络连接的地方也能随时收听。希望大家的2025年有一个愉快的开始。我们的开局当然不错，敬请期待更多内容。

0:11 Welcome to the Smart Charge by RiDERgy podcast. This is Claudio Geyken, founder and CEO of RiDERgy. This is your show to learn about all things energy management and smart charging innovation for electric vehicles and fleets.

0:41 Dear listeners, welcome to the Smart Charge by RiDERgy podcast. I'm Claudio. My background is in energy engineering, renewable energies, or sustainable energies, and I was passionate about that topic since the 2004 acceleration of this phenomenon of installing solar and wind. I bought into the idea that getting to 100% renewable energy would be much better for the world, and I studied that. Not only am I a very techy person, not only am I in love with technology, but I'm a

1:16 bit of a strange animal as I love business and entrepreneurship. I speak 9 languages fluently, and I'm going to deep-dive a little bit on the entrepreneurship aspect in a second and how that came to be. But first, how did I get to 9 languages as an engineer focusing on thermodynamics and other complicated tech topics? My father is German, my mother is Italian, and I was born just near Paris. So I was born in Paris with two parents from different countries, so the three languages were

1:46 there from the get-go. Then I learned English because one has to. I learned French from TV series. I lived many years in Spain, particularly in Barcelona - la ciudad que me gusta muchísimo - and I also picked up Portuguese, as well as a bit of Brazilian Portuguese, because of how much of the culture and the country I enjoyed. And then Mandarin Chinese - reading, writing, spoken Mandarin, the characters. I deeply engaged with Chinese culture and the people. Entrepreneurship basically was ingrained in me by the masters with InnoEnergy, where I met a lot of entrepreneurs that were in their program, as well as this mindset of getting really hands-on and tackling challenges and solving problems.

2:30 At InnoEnergy I met a lot of entrepreneurs who were in their program, as well as this mindset of getting really hands-on and tackling challenges and solving problems. I created an initiative to connect people in the ecosystem and I got hired to basically do that by the CEO of InnoEnergy. That gave me quite a lot of insights and freedom to build up a community inspired by TEDx and LinkedIn, so a few thousand people were there, part

3:02 of the community. We had 60 events per year with 150 volunteers helping out every year, and that was a great, insightful experience to understand how energy, shaped by regulation, is not just like building an e-commerce shop - and especially all the business intricacies and tech intricacies related to building a business in the energy space. So after that, I decided to move and create RiDERgy. The reason being that in the 2020s we desperately needed more sophisticated solutions than what was there to basically shape demand to the

3:42 production times - consume energy when there's lots of wind and solar, when the grids are not congested, and also deliver batteries back. Most of the solutions that were there at that time were not very sophisticated, and a lot has to be done. I also built RiDERgy with the intention of being DER-first - you can notice DER being capital letters - distributed energy resources, connecting over the long term assets like EVs, solar panels, battery storage, etc. across multiple transactions and different organizations and people. That's what

4:16 we want to enable with this software and AI-driven platform. And now we focus on businesses - companies that usually have a lot of electric vehicles in their operations, be it logistics providers with vans and trucks, but also company fleet employees, corporate employees, and office workers. Since we started a couple of years ago in Berlin with my co-founder and a few others on the team, we have already achieved quite a significant amount of things, namely working with big corporate

4:50 employers having large EV fleets, and now expanding from Germany and Europe to other countries as well. So very exciting times for us at RiDERgy. If you want to learn more, ridergy.com or follow us on LinkedIn - we're quite active. Well, how did this podcast come to be? I'm an avid and passionate podcast listener. The numbers speak for themselves: Spotify told me in the recap that I had 18,000 minutes listening to business, entrepreneurship, and tech podcasts last year, which put me in the

5:24 top 0.5% of the most passionate listeners. So I know a lot of the topics that are out there - different languages, energy, EV software, business, entrepreneurship - and I felt like the types of topics that we touch upon at RiDERgy every day, that I'm super passionate about, deserve more information out there. The likes of Acquired or the likes of Energoner, etc. do quite a good job showcasing some points, but if you want to go into fleet

5:57 electrification and mobility - how mobility and energy are really starting to merge together - there are several aspects that I find are not talked about enough, like electrification challenges and grid reinforcement related to how much capacity there is in cables, but also how many chargers and what chargers need to be installed, and how to best manage the charging process across route optimization. That's a lot of topics that fleets are faced with and that I don't find many podcasts talking about. So I want to put

6:34 especially people working with fleets in the foreground - be it users, policy makers, solution providers, entrepreneurs, etc. - interview them and have great insights coming from these conversations. So it's going to cover topics like regulation, technology, and business - a variety of topics from how the clean energy package affects member states, but also worldwide. We're going to look at countries like China, the US, or even Ethiopia, which for example banned non-EV sales running on 100% hydropower - a very good choice. So that's going to cover those topics as well.

7:15 API integrations, protocols, OCPP, ISO 15118, cybersecurity, GDPR, AI - you see a lot of buzzwords, but they are super important in practice. We are also going to deep dive into the energy aspects of things like solar self-consumption with batteries, building loads, markets, grids, distribution grid levels, transmission grid levels - really the diversity of aspects and how they play together.

7:53 This is so much about the podcast origin and the podcast topics. There's also more to say about the podcast topics, but for now I think I will keep it a bit shorter and let you be surprised about what we'll all touch upon. We will also interview experts in their field who are very charismatic, and the audio quality is going to be amazing because we're here in this great studio offered by the German Energy Agency in

8:24 Berlin Mitte, so hopefully most guests will be able to come here so that we have an amazing sound for you. The quality will also be enhanced, hopefully, if we add some video sometime. We will make sure that we have an amazing podcast shaped together as a community - we don't want to be the only ones deciding how we are going to shape this podcast, but we're also going to take ideas from externals. As a past community builder, I know the power of community

8:55 and who knows what this podcast journey could bring us. As a strategy, we use AI tools to make it multilingual, so we want to have everyone benefiting from this podcast, not only English speakers. As a polyglot, I really believe in the power of language and making it accessible, and I'm keen to see how AI tools can help us there, also in written format, transcribing content. There are inspirations - for example, Lex Fridman, where he couldn't speak any Spanish but with his voice the interview was in Spanish - so there are interesting things to come with the podcast.

9:32 The technology and space is also developing as we speak. We will have this interview format, and probably a length that is not too long, not too short. Let's see what the right fit is. If you want to have a look as well and get a sense of what I've done in the past, the Energy Change Agents podcast is a great one

10:01 to check out. I mentioned before some of the entrepreneurs - for example, Simone from FlexiDAO was interviewed there on the 24/7 initiative, basically green electricity certificates working with Microsoft and Google. There will be others to listen to there, and for example Northvolt might be a next guest here at this podcast with their fascinating story.

10:36 I apologize if I don't manage to do this at perfect quality. I'm also busy doing many other things, building the business, and it's not my full-time gig as it may be for many other podcast hosts. Hopefully you'll cut me some slack, but in any case, feel free to send feedback if you believe we can do something better or if you have ideas or suggestions. So without further ado, you can subscribe to the podcast so that you don't miss

11:07 the next episode - it will come soon. Download them automatically as well, so you can listen wherever you are without an internet connection. I hope you have a pleasant start to 2025. We certainly have, and stay tuned for more to come.